"AestheticsInMotion" (aestheticsinmotion)
05/22/2018 at 23:25 • Filed to: None
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"AestheticsInMotion" (aestheticsinmotion)
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The company owner is going to make me an offer this week, which is something I’ve never dealt with, having gone straight from minumum wage jobs in high school to starting a few small businesses. Work kitty for your time
Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo
> AestheticsInMotion
05/22/2018 at 23:34 |
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Ive done this once in my life but it’s not nearly bad as you think. The worst they can do is say no. Often you will get close to what you want. You are your biggest advocate, no one else has your back. Remember that.
I have another burner, try to guess it!
> AestheticsInMotion
05/22/2018 at 23:35 |
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Never had to negotiate my salary irl, but in a business class I took last semester they said they typically ask for a range of what you want, and to make your minimum the reasonable amount you want. Then add a couple thousand and that’s the high.
So if you want 65k, and they ask for your range, say you want 65-67k.*
*Again this was told to me in a college class. I have no irl experience in the matter.
Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
> AestheticsInMotion
05/22/2018 at 23:41 |
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It seems like you should have an idea of what the position is worth, and what you want. Ask for that + 10-15% over so you can edge downwards and make some concessions.
Danimalk - Drives a Slow Car Fast
> AestheticsInMotion
05/22/2018 at 23:53 |
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No matter what they offer, you tell them to double it.
PS9
> AestheticsInMotion
05/22/2018 at 23:55 |
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Demand six figures. When they balk at this, stick your Bat’leth right at their neck and threaten to behead them if they insult your honor with a lower offer. They will counter with the lowest offer possible and flip over the table.
A fight to the death will ensue here. Best the other person and he will yield before the killing blow, offering you your six figures. Thats when you now demand SEVEN if he wishes to live.
If he refuses to yield as the fight goes on, you’ll have to kill him. You’ll become the new CEO. They pay isn’t as good as seven figures, but there are stock options to make up for it.
...wait, you are negotiating with klingons, right? I just assumed.
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AestheticsInMotion
> PS9
05/23/2018 at 00:13 |
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Hmm. Where can I find a klingon embassy...
F40LM
> AestheticsInMotion
05/23/2018 at 00:20 |
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*There going to make you an offer, that means they want you. Keep that in mind.
If they ask you what salary your looking for before they give an amount, ask what the their range is.
If forced to give a number before you know a range, tell them your looking for X percentile or above by X% because of [insert specific skills and traits you have].
Research what the position is worth. If you do give a particular number, always make sure you can back up why. If you see that the position makes 50k-100k and you ask for 100k, make sure you can back up why you deserve to be at the top and not the bottom.
And absolutely don’t forget: they are not only interviewing you, you are interviewing them. Why do they deserve to have you as an employee? Don’t come out and say that, but make sure you’re asking them the questions that you want to know. This is a big decision. Not only will this help you make better choices, but it let’s them know that you’re serious, amongst other things. Relationships are two way.
Chariotoflove
> PS9
05/23/2018 at 00:40 |
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*taking notes furiously*
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Chariotoflove
> AestheticsInMotion
05/23/2018 at 00:47 |
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I can tell you how I negotiated my faculty position. I sat with my wife, and we worked out just how much our income needed to be for us to live in the Black, meet our goals for the future, and save for that future.
Then, when they asked me what I wanted, I have them that number and told them why. I also stipulated that I needed a free parking spot in the doctor’s garage as a condition of my hire, and I cited safety reasons. They countered with a slightly smaller amount the I calculated I would make up after one or two regular performance raises. They also gave me the spot. The salary was competitive with the market at my level, so I accepted.
AddictedToM3s - Drives a GC
> AestheticsInMotion
05/23/2018 at 00:59 |
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Look at Glassdoor and Google to see what the salary range is. From there ask for the top end of the range in your local metropolitan area and add on 10%. They’ll counter with a lower amount and that should give you a gauge of what they are looking for. You want to do two rounds MAX. Ideally you should be done after one round.
If they’re not budging, offer a 6-month revisit with some objectives and goals wherein if you meet those goals, you will command a higher salary.
Eric @ opposite-lock.com
> AestheticsInMotion
05/23/2018 at 01:13 |
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My method is shitty, so don’t take my advice.
I tell them to make me an offer and I either accept or decline. They have a budget for this position, so what is the point in haggling? If I decline, I have never given them a second chance because they need to go to the top of the range, which they won’t do because they think I’m negotiating. Basically, like when someone lowballs me on CL, they’re dead to me.
BoulderZ
> AestheticsInMotion
05/23/2018 at 01:40 |
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Know what the position is worth. All of the references are crap on their own, e.g. salary.com, glassdoor.com, etc. but get a clear picture of what that job really pays, including to you (a poop job may still be worth it for a platinum offer, we all have our price). DO NOT OFFER A NUMBER, “It’s your position, offering to me, so make the offer.” , “We’re looking to offer something commensurate with your experience.”, “You know what this position is worth to you, do go ahead and make your offer.” Do not let them rope-a-dope you. You previous jobs have nothing to do with how they value your contributions to their painfully vacant position now which they believe you can fix. The opening move *must* be theirs.
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> AestheticsInMotion
05/23/2018 at 06:35 |
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To piggyback zoidberg... they want to pay you as little as possible. If they are stuck on salary, you can ask for perks as well. Fuel card, company vehicle, auto allowance, more paid vacation days... along those lines.
As he said, worse they can say is no. It’s good to know what your industry allows for your position and skills as well. Knowledge is power here.
Good luck.
Nibbles
> AestheticsInMotion
05/23/2018 at 07:55 |
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Go in knowledgeable of the market rate for your position, the benefits included, your abilities, your current rate, and what you want for salary (be reasonable on the last one). Highball a tad so you have wiggle room. If there are little to no benefits, go higher and state such because you’ll have to pay out of pocket.
BIGBLOCK472 - wide and bizarre
> Highlander-Datsuns are Forever
05/23/2018 at 15:44 |
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This is is solid advice. Payscale is a pretty good resource to judge where your salary falls for you job in your market.
Tapas
> AestheticsInMotion
05/23/2018 at 16:07 |
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First off, congratulations!
Second, I think it’s ok to ask 10% more than what they offer during negotiations. Don’t mention the percentage, say you want 5k more (if they’re offering 50k/year).
This is aso something I heard. Good luck!